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印度社会偏爱妇女和女孩吗

Is Indian society more partial towards women and girls?

印度社会偏爱妇女和女孩吗?

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Anonymous

No, it's not. It might seem so to an immature boy who does not know what the life of a girl is like, but no.

I have lived in a very developed city, where discrimination is not as rampant as the rural parts of India, and yet I can say with absolute certainty that society is not partial towards boys.

My parents are extremely impartial, so is most of my extended family. My friends do not care about my gender and neither do most good teachers.

Now, I'll come to why boys sometimes think they're the ones getting the raw deal. A few days ago, I was talking to a classmate who was trying to get a centre change for a test, and said that being a girl must be nice, cause we get such things done easily.

News flash guys, we get centre changes cause the test ends at 9:30 in the night. Many of us and our parents are not comfortable with us travelling alone after nightfall. Maybe if you paid attention to the news, you'd know why. It's why our teachers have been telling the girls in our class to be aware and safe, even when there's just 2 girls in the class.

不,不是这样的。对于一个不了解女孩生活的幼稚男孩来说,看起来似乎是这样的,但事实并非如此。

我之前生活在一个非常发达的城市,那里的性别歧视不像印度农村地区那么猖獗,但我可以绝对肯定地说,印度社会并不偏爱男孩。

我的父母非常公正,我们的大多数亲戚家庭也是如此。我的朋友不在意我的性别,大多数好老师也并不在意。

现在,我想说说为什么男孩有时会认为他们才是受到不公平待遇的人。几天前,我和一个同学聊天,他想换一个中心参加考试,他说他要是女孩就好了,因为女孩很容易申请下来。

伙计们,我们想换考试中心是因为考试要持续到晚上9点半才结束。我们中很多人以及我们的父母对我们在夜里出行都不放心。如果你关注一下新闻,就会知道原因了。这就是为什么我们的老师跟班上的女生叮嘱,让她们要注意安全,即使班里只有两个女生。

You want to complain about girls reservation in IITs? I used to be against it too. But the fact is that most parents are not comfortable with sending their daughters to far away places which are not in or near cities and where travel is unsafe.

To those thinking girls don't do chores? Yes, we don't, neither do the boys of our age. We study the same, so it's wrong to expect otherwise.

You say teachers are lenient towards girls? Have you considered being polite and not back answering? Cause teachers rather like respectful students. Maybe they are a bit lenient. Perhaps it's because there's two girls in a class of 60 people and the teachers are just trying to make them feel comfortable.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the lives of girls are not as easy as they might seem, and don't mistake equality with partiality.

你对印度理工学院的女生预留席位有意见吗?我过去对此非常反对。但事实是,大多数父母不愿意把女儿送到远离城市或城市附近的地方,因为那里不安全。

有人认为女孩不做家务?是的,我们不做,但我们同龄的男孩也不做。我们学习的都是一样的东西,所以为什么对我们有不同的期望呢。

你说老师对女生很宽容?你有没有想过,也许自己该礼貌一点,不要顶嘴?因为老师更喜欢恭敬有礼的学生。也许他们是比较宽容。也许是因为一个60人的班级里只有两个女孩,老师只想让她们自在一点。

很抱歉打破了你的幻想,但是女孩的生活并不像看起来那么简单,请不要把平等和偏袒混为一谈。

 

Anonymous

Its Rampant Toxic Feminism that is so 'popular' these days. It does nothing but break families, encourage women to leave their husbands become lesbian, and be delusional enough to think there is this fake made up concept called 'patriarchy' which is evil and all men are oppressors.

Here are 30 similarities between Feminism and early Nazism:

  1. Both have discriminated against individuals on the basis of their genetic code.
  2. Both have promoted the view that the targeted group was inferior genetically and behaviorally.
  3. Both have promoted propaganda that lead to the targeted group being labeled as parasites.
  4. Both have promoted propaganda that lead to the targeted group being constantly ridiculed.
  5. Both have promoted propaganda that lead to the targeted group being laughed at when mutilated.

这是猖獗的、有毒的女权主义,现在却如此“盛行”。它只会破坏家庭,鼓动女性离开她们的丈夫,变成女同性恋,并假想出一种伪概念“父权制”,认为“父权制”是邪恶的,所有的男人都是压迫者。

以下是女权主义与早期纳粹主义的30个相似之处:

  1. 两者都基于个体的遗传密码而歧视他们。
  2. 两者都提倡这样一种观点,即目标群体在基因和行为上都是低人一等的。
  3. 两者都大肆宣传,给目标群体贴上寄生虫的标签。
  4. 两者都大肆宣传,导致目标群体不断遭到嘲笑。
  5. 两者都大肆宣传,导致目标群体瓦解时遭人嘲笑。

6. Both have demonized the targeted group by labeling them as perverts and sexual criminals.

7. Both have sought to break the target group away from their families.

8. Both have promoted the view that the targeted group was responsible for most of the major ills in society.

9. Both have disseminated lies and disinformation about the targeted group in order to further promote their own ideology.

10. Both have disseminated lies and disinformation about historical matters.

11. Both have used intimidation, threats and coercion to prevent their opponents from speaking out e.g. see AH's Feminists are nasty things.

6. 他们都将目标群体妖魔化,给他们贴上变态和性罪犯的标签。

7. 他们都试图将目标群体从家庭中分离出来。

8. 两者都提倡这样一种观点,即目标群体应对社会上的大多数重大问题负责。

9. 他们都散布关于目标群体的谎言和虚假信息,进一步推广自己的意识形态。

10. 他们都散布有关历史事件的谎言和不实信息。

11. 他们都使用恐和、威胁和强迫手段来阻止他们的对手发声。

12. Both have promoted the lie that the privileged group consisted of innocent 'victims' of the targeted group e.g. "women have been oppressed throughout history."

13. Both have demanded special privileges in the workplace for members of the privileged group e.g. preferential job placements for women

14. Both have discriminated against the targeted group in educational matters and in the workplace.

15. Both have perverted the justice system so that members of the targeted group were easily discriminated against in the law.

16. Both have arranged matters so that accusers from the privileged group could be shielded by anonymity in the courtroom e.g. in sex-assault cases.

17. Both have arranged matters so that defendants from the targeted group had to 'prove' their innocence e.g. in sex-assault and domestic violence cases.

18. Both have arranged matters so that members of the privileged group could capriciously define what, legally, was to be deemed 'a crime', e.g. where nowadays the 'feelings' of women rather than the behaviours of men are the determinants of what constitutes 'a crime'.

12. 他们都宣扬这样一个谎言,即特权群体是由目标群体的无辜“受害者”组成的。“历史上妇女一直遭受压迫。”

13. 两者都要求特权群体成员在工作场所享有特权,例如优先安排妇女工作

14. 他们都在教育和工作中歧视目标群体。

15. 两者都扭曲了司法体系,使目标群体的成员很容易在法律上受到歧视,例如在家庭法庭上。

16. 两者都做了一些手段,以便特权群体的原告可以在法庭上匿名举报,比如在性侵犯案件中。

17. 两者都要求目标群体中的被告必须“证明”自己的清白。

18. 两者都安排好一切,让特权小组成员可以任性地定义法律上何为“犯罪”。

19. Both have arranged matters so that members of the privileged group could capriciously define how the law was to view certain matters.

20. They both effectively controlled the mainstream media and the academic institutions and arranged for them to present a dishonest and dishonorable point of view in support of their ideology.

21. They both consistently highlighted and exaggerated the achievements and the suffering of the privileged group while downplaying the achievements and the suffering of the targeted group

22. They both ran go nment-funded educational courses in universities (e.g. Women's Studies, Title IX) and in schools to promote the privileged group at the expense of the targeted group.

23. they both persisted in a long term campaign of hatred toward the targeted group.

19. 两者都安排好一切,以便特权群体的成员可以反复无常地定义法律是如何看待某些问题的。

20. 两者有效地控制了主流媒体和学术机构,让他们发表不诚实、不光彩的观点来支持自己的意识形态

21. 两者都一贯强调和夸大特权群体的成就和苦难,而轻视目标群体的成就和苦难。

22. 她们都在大学(例如妇女研究,第九条)和学校开办了政府资助的教育课程,以牺牲目标群体的利益来促进特权群体的发展。

23. 他们都坚持长期仇视目标群体。

 

Shariq Azim, Developer at Cognizant (2015-present)

don't speak a word further dude or you may be booked under the charges of molestation or acts to hurt the modesty of a woman.In India feminism is the way of living.

now the main part.no I won't mind people to fight for their equality, feminism should be present to support the weaker(the one suppressed) section of the crowd not to suppress the other gender in any form, which is applicable for us too.Problem arises when a feminist demands for equality and assumes that she is constantly being deprived of basic rights and want the upper hand in the society.

one more thing.my personal view is they all are confused .they don't know what do they want exactly from us.

I know the so-called feminist group will now team up against me and make sure that they put their point stand and absolutely nullify my words.but I know somewhere down the line they will agree with me.

不要再说了,老兄,否则你可能会因性骚扰或伤害女性贞操而被指控。在印度,女权主义是一种生活方式。

不,我不介意人们为平等而战,女权主义应该在人群中支持弱者(被压制的一方),而不是随意压制其他性别,这对我们也是适用的。当女权主义者要求平权,认为自己的基本权利被不断侵害并想在社会中占上风时,问题就出现了。

还有一件事。我个人的看法是,他们都很困惑,他们不知道自己到底想从我们这里得到什么。

我知道那些所谓的女权主义团体现在会联合起来反对我,表明自己的立场,彻底否定我的话。但我知道他们迟早会同意我的意见。

 

Anonymous

Yes, The Indian society is more partial towards women.

The reason why more number of girls are killed in womb in India than those born in US. For is it not partiality or pity that a girl is not allowed to be born in a country where she runs the risk of getting raped before she even reaches puberty?

Or paraded like a chattel when she is of marriageable age in front of sweet gulping groom and his family and rejected on the basis of her figure/looks.

是的,印度社会偏爱女性。

这就是为什么在印度胎死腹中的女婴比出生在美国的女婴还多。在一个女孩未到青春期就可能被强奸的国家,不允许她出生,这难道不是一种偏爱或悲悯吗?

当她到了适婚年龄,在可爱的新郎和他的家人面前像个奴隶一样展示自己,却因为她的身材和外貌而被嫌弃。

译文来源:阿巴森 http://www.abaripsen.com/p/50945.html 译者:Joyceliu

 

Sriharsha Reddy

Definitely not. Though you may feel that when ever you harass woman and she decided to take action by complaining to police or contact media.. she will be given a bit more positive coverage. But the point is how many girls approach the media or police when ever they are harassed or attacked may be just 5% of them

绝对没有。虽然当你骚扰女人,而她决定向警方报案或联系媒体采取行动时,你会这么觉得。她会得到更多的正面报道。但问题是,有多少女孩在受到骚扰或攻击时会寻求媒体或警察的帮助呢,可能只有5%。

 

Hanisha Anand

I hardly think so...if this were true then most problems women face would be eliminated. Infact people sympathize towards women, they aren't exactly partial. Even that sympathy arises cos people see the condition of Indian women in the society

我不这么认为……如果这是真的,那么女性面临的大多数问题都将得到解决。事实上,人们同情女性,并不完全是偏袒。即便是同情,也是因为人们看到了印度女性在社会中的处境。

 

Uday Borkar

what you are experiencing is clearly not ‘misandry’.. . and what rights are you talking about? Right to not be killed ? Right to live a safe life ? you are saying that innocent boys go through so much like being ridiculed or laughed at or having their image distorted or something but do really understand what is going on now? do you? Such cases are really rare but abuse against women ?.. just get a take a look in any local newspaper…

你正在经历的显然不是“痛苦”。你说的是什么权利?不被杀的权利?安稳过日子的权利?你说无辜的男孩经历了被嘲笑、被奚落、形象被扭曲之类的事情,但你真的明白现在的局势吗?真的吗?这样的事件真的很少见,但是虐待妇女的情况呢?看看当地的报纸就知道了…

 

Tammy Mhatre

The problem is because of society men don't say about it.

There is no reason a woman should ever hit a man, just like men should never hit a woman. Yet you see it from time to time out in the open and on tv as a socially acceptable thing.

The law in India is generally gender neutral. even the newly framed law on sex crimes is gender neutral. Thus men and women both are protected. If a female boss sexually exploits his male junior, he will be protected.

这个问题是因为社会上的男人不愿谈论。

女人没有理由打男人,就像男人没有理由打女人一样。然而,你不时地在公开场合和电视上看到这种事,就好像这是被社会接受的事情。

印度的法律一般是中性的。即使是新制定的关于性犯罪的法律也是中性的。因此,男人和女人都受到了保护。如果一位女上司对他的男下属进行性骚扰,他也将受到保护。

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