India is paying $17 billion for a 500km bullet train while China is building a 3,000km bullet train for $5.5 billion in Thailand. Arvind Kejriwal has re-tweeted this thrice. Is this true?
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Deepak Mehta, been traveling in trains since I was 5.
Answered Oct 2, 2017 · Author has 3k answers and 58.3m answer views
Mr. Kejriwal’s tweeting habits are a lot like Mr. Trump’s - tweet/RT anything that validates your case without checking for its veracity.
Prashant Bhushan tweeted something similar.
Thailand approves 3000 KM Chinese bullet train from Bangkok to China for $5.5B. India approves 500KM train for $17B!https://t.co/NnyXU5zl
— Prashant Bhushan (@pbhushan1) October 2, 2017
But at least he had the integrity to accept that it was misleading.
On further research, it seems that $5.5B may be for the 1st phase of this train track of only 256KM length. My apologies https://t.co/L5HZmYWhqE
— Prashant Bhushan (@pbhushan1) October 2, 2017
This is the original article that provides all relevant factual information.
This article provides more information.
On Tuesday, Thailand greenlit the first stage of the ambitious Southeast Asia sprawling railway project. This phase will see the construction of a 256km high-speed rail line between Bangkok and Nakhon Ratchasima. The project is estimated to take four years and cost $5.2 billion. Thailand will be providing the money, while China provides the expertise.
However, even after its finished, the line will still be around 600km away from the Laos border. The second phase of the project, a rail line from Nakhon Ratchasima to Nong Khai on the border has not yet been approved.
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Deepak Kiran Kumar, lives in India
Answered Oct 2, 2017 · Author has 114 answers and 314k answer views
It can be cut down to atleast 30000 - 40000 crores for a 500km odd stretch.
The Chinese managed to reverse engineer the Shinkansen and export it.
Japan's rail firms fear eclipse by China in U.S. | The Japan Times
Did China steal Japan’s high-speed train?
From wikipedia : India's prime minister Narendra Modi approved the choice of Japan to build India's first high-speed railway. The planned rail would run some 500 km (310 mi) between Mumbai and the western city of Ahmedabad, at a top speed of 320 km/h (200 mph). Under the proposal, construction began in 2017 and is expected to be completed in 2022. It would cost about ₹980 billion (US$15 billion) and be financed by a low-interest loan from Japan. India will use JR East, wheel-based, 320 km/hr HSR technology, rather than the JR Central 600 km/hr linear motor or maglev technology to be used in the Chūō Shinkansen. Operation is officially targeted to begin in 2023, but India has also announced the intention to attempt to bring the line into operation one year earlier.
Exports of Shinkansen:
China ordered a number of 250 km/h trains based on the E2-1000 series design, renamed it as CRH2, becoming the second Shinkansen train exported after the 700T for Taiwan. These CRH2 trains consist of a total of 60 sets; the first three sets (2001-2003) were built in Japan, the next six sets were delivered in complete knock down (CKD) form and assembled by CSR Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock, the remaining 51 sets were built by Sifang through technology transfer from Japan. The first train arrived at the port of Qingdao on 8 March 2006.
中国订购了基于E2-1000系列设计的时速250公里/小时的列车，并将其改名为CRH2，成为继出口至台湾的700T之后第二批出口的新干线列车。这些CRH2列车共有60组;前三组(2001-2003)在日本制造，后六组采用完全拆卸(CKD)形式交付，由中国南车四方机车股份有限公司(CSR Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock)组装，其余51套由四方通过日本技术转让制造。第一列高铁于2006年3月8日抵达青岛港口。
CR2H covers 404 km at a cost of 15.3 billion Yuan or 15000 crore rupees. Ahmedabad-Mumbai is approximately 500km long and 118000 crores is questionable.
Qinhuangdao-Shenyang passenger railway or Qinshen railway is a passenger-dedicated high-speed railway between Qinhuangdao and Shenyang, spanning a distance of 404 km. Construction started on August 16, 1999. Opened on October 12, 2003, it is the first newly built high-speed railway in China, costing CN¥15.7 billion (US$1.9 billion). It is an electrified dual-track railway designed for a top speed of 200 km/h. By 2007 its top speed was increased to 250 km/h. In 2002, high-speed train China Star achieved a top speed of 321 km/h on Qinshen railway, setting a record for Chinese train speed. Currently, most of the passenger trains between Qinhuangdao to Shenyang are diverted to this railway from Shenshan railway.
Shinkansen variants and their operational speed is listed below:
800 series: In service since 2004 on Tsubame services, with a maximum speed of 260 km/h (160 mph).
N700-7000/8000 series In service since March 2011 on Mizuho and Sakura services with a maximum speed of 300 km/h (185 mph). Tohoku, Joetsu, and Hokuriku Shinkansen
E5 series 200 series: The first type introduced on the Tohoku and Joetsu Shinkansen in 1982 and withdrawn in April 2013. Maximum speed was 240 km/h (150 mph). The final configuration was as 10-car sets. 12-car and 16-car sets also operated at earlier times.
E1 series: Bilevel 12-car trains introduced in 1994 and withdrawn in September 2012. Maximum speed was 240 km/h (150 mph).
E2 series: 8/10-car sets in service since 1997 with a maximum speed of 275 km/h (170 mph).
E4 series: Bilevel 8-car trains in service since 1997 with a maximum speed of 240 km/h (150 mph).
E5 series: 10-car sets in service since March 2011 with a maximum speed of 320 km/h (200 mph).
E7 series: 12-car trains operated on the Hokuriku Shinkansen since March 2014, with a maximum speed of 260 km/h (160 mph).
W7 series: 12-car trains operated on the Hokuriku Shinkansen since March 2015, with a maximum speed of 260 km/h (160 mph)
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Milind Singh, Managing Director (2015-present)
Answered Oct 23, 2017 · Author has 55 answers and 26.7k answer views
Main reason behind such huge amount for just 500 kms is our topographical conditions. Every km there are variations like lakes, mountains, rivers, valleys etc. which eventually increases the cost of bullet train in India. And Thailand have flat terrain which makes it easy for laying tracks there, costing less.
Now let’s talk about our beloved CM of Delhi Mr. Kejriwal. He retweets everything what is against our PM and his party. Kejriwal enjoys giving reviews on movies, he loves to go on protest, he loves to write letters to LG even if a mosquito bites him. He love calling PM coward and psychopath. What else can you expect from him if he retweets this thrice.
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Utpal Rai, former Intern at Delhi Metro (2017)
Answered Oct 7, 2017
Thailand approved a 5.5 billion US dollar high-speed railway project to link Bangkok with China and gave the order to China in July. Now, there is a comparison between the cost of this project and the bullet train project between Ahmedabad and Mumbai to be built by Japan.
the amount Thailand approved, 5.5 billion USD, was just for the first phase of the project spanning 370 km and not for the entire 3,000-km-stretch.
Writing anything of social media is very easy but as a cm kejriwal should first do all research.
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Rajas Muley, BE from Maharashtra Institute Of Technology (2017)
Answered Oct 2, 2017 · Author has 52 answers and 21.1k answer views
With arvind kejriwal ji tweeting it thrice surely confirms that it's false ;)
The $5.5bn funding is for a phase of 256 km route and not that of falsely claimed 3000 km.
Defaming go nment policies is a trend for now, therefore verification through multiple sources is what I suggest.
For japan vs china bullet train technology comparison use Google.
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Kalpesh, lived in India
Answered Oct 2, 2017
How much effort would it take to google some information in news articles to determine if its true.
You can do it easily right? Now for someone who is a chief minister has definitely got to be more informed and responsible before tweeting or retweeting something.
To answer your question, the information is not true. You can read the below article.
How much does Thai bullet train cost? Why did Prashant Bhushan apologise?
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Harsh Vardhan Sahu, B.com Commerce & Economics, National P.G. College (2017)
Answered Oct 3, 2017
HOW MUCH DOES THE THAI BULLET TRAIN COST?
On September 21, Thailand's transport minister said that the first phase of the first phase of the high-speed railway project will cost approximately 5.5 billion USD.
The first phase will focus on a 250 km (155 miles) track -- from Bangkok to the northeastern Thai province of Nakhon Ratchasima -- out of the 873 km (542 miles) rail line planned to link Thailand's border with Laos to the ports and industrial zones in Thailand's east, a Reuters report said.
Answered Oct 2, 2017 · Author has 74 answers and 30.4k answer views
The bullet of japan is more fast , advance and security proof
Construction is expensive in Mumbai Ahmedabad route because of harsh terrain
India is building an elevated track
We are important technology also , not just train
That 17 billion is just one time , once we get the tech and manufacturing and research units got setted up ! Our costt of upcoming trains will be much lower bcz there will low fixed costs !
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Anunay Kumar, former Author at Zorba Books"" Single Window " (2016)
Answered Oct 2, 2017
This is wrong. Now these morons have started sending their apologies.The lie was started by a lawyer named Shanti Bhushan who is a a well known activist and black mailer.
Kejriwal should concentrate on his job and stop paying trolls.
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Answered Oct 2, 2017 · Author has 56 answers and 17.8k answer views
Seoul’s you like to buy a chinese knock off phone that will last for 6 months or the real deal that will last much longer and will be safer? There are people out there braying to the skies everyday. Don’t listen to them.
Chances are , they would never take a train and would not care Howe unsafe the train is as long as it would be cheaper. These people are wasting their time tweeting the same thing again and again only because we actually listen to their rambling.
Maube if we stop paying attention to them, they might get off their ass and do something productive instead.